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I am confused. All my life I interacted with others on the basis that I am a human being. After I got married I was surprised by some rulings which treat me as if I am not human, because they treat me as if I am only an object for the enjoyment of the man, such as the fact that the angels will curse me if I refuse intimacy under any circumstances, at the time when he is under no such burden if he refuses to have intercourse with his wife even if he does that to cause her harm.
So he gets the reward of doing charity if he has intercourse with her and enjoys intimacy with her, and she will not have any reward, even if she responds unwillingly.
If he upsets me and humiliates me in front of people, I have to make up with him and try to please him, otherwise the angels will curse me.
And of course I have no right to differ with his opinion or to argue with him, and if I lose my temper I am not forgiven.
And, as you have stated in a fatwa, the reward for praying in congregation is only for men and not for women. Is this what Allaah has prescribed for us? Is this the fate of the Muslim woman if she does well and does what is required of her?
If she avoids sin, she does not attain any virtue and if she falls short she is one of those who are cursed and expelled from the mercy of Allaah, and do I and the accursed Iblees become the same? I hope that you will pay attention to this question, because I am having doubts about my religion. If this is what Allaah has prescribed then we hear and obey and there is no power and no strength except with Allaah.
And the scholar replies
Praise be to Allaah.
We are shocked by what the sister has mentioned in her question, that is not part of the religion of Allah but she is attributing to it, and her belief in rulings for which Allah has not sent down any authority, such as her saying that “after I got married I was surprised by some rulings which treat me as if I am not human, because they treat me as if I am only an object for the enjoyment of the man”!
Did you read that, sister? You shocked them! Let’s see if they shock you
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Allah has honoured women greatly. He honours them as daughters, mothers and wives, and gives them rights and virtues, and enjoins good treatment in ways that are not shared by men in many cases.
Islam does not deny woman’s humanity. Rather it gives her her rights and holds her in high esteem. Women were treated as chattels and objects before Allah honoured mankind with Islam. Women would be inherited like goods and chattels, and could be left suspended, being neither married nor divorced.
A woman would have to wait for a year after her husband’s death, neither washing nor going out of the house, until birds and animals would die from her foul smell! Women were not allowed to inherit, let alone the fact that they could be buried alive. And there are many other ways in which Islam honoured women, which we have no room to discuss in detail here; rather we just wanted to remind you of this.
That was mainly in the Mid East. I just wanted to remind the scholar of this.
The sister says in her question: “such as the fact that the angels will curse me if I refuse intimacy under any circumstances”.
This is not correct. Rather the angels do not curse the wife who refuses to share her husband’s bed unless she has no valid excuse. such as being sick, or menstruating, or bleeding following childbirth, or observing an obligatory fast, then she is not cursed.
A woman does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her, so long as that will not harm her or keep her from doing something that is obligatory.
That is because under the Sharia Nikkah (marriage) contract, your husband bought your vagina. It’s his to use. As Allah’s partner says…
It is obligatory on slave women and free women alike not to refuse their masters or husbands if they call them. If she refuses with no excuse, then she is cursed.
The sister says in her question, “at the time when he is under no such burden if he refuses to have intercourse with his wife even if he does that to cause her harm.” This also is not correct. Islam forbids harming others, which includes a husband harming his wife by preventing her from breastfeeding her child, or denying her right to intercourse and pleasure.
Sister, you have the right to have an orgasm….and to make milk.
It is not permissible for a man to forsake his wife and thus harm her, except in the case of nushooz (rebellion) and disobedience. But he is not committing a sin if he does not lie with her without intending to harm her, because the need is his and depends on his desire and he cannot control his desire at will. If he forsakes her, then he is a sinner because there should be no harming or reciprocating harm. And Allaah knows best.
What if she rebels because he’s lousy in the sack? Does she get beat or cursed? Either way sister, I’d bring in the dog…a great big dog. Angels won’t come into your house if you have a dog.
The sister says in her question, “So he gets the reward of doing charity if he has intercourse with her and enjoys intimacy with her, and she will not have any reward, even if she responds unwillingly”
Imaam al-Nawawi said: “The phrase, ‘Having intercourse is a charity’ – the word bud’ (translated here as ‘having intercourse’) may mean intercourse, or it may refer to the private part itself.”
Whose private part? What good is Imaam Nawawi if he doesn’t know what intercourse is? Wouldn’t want to be one of his wives. He probably thinks the g-spot means goat.
The sister says in her question: “If he upsets me and humiliates me in front of people, I have to make up with him and try to please him, otherwise the angels will curse me”.
This also is not correct. The curse applies in the case of a woman who refuses to come to her husband’s bed with no excuse, when her husband stays angry with her all night – as explained above.
But if the husband humiliates her, then he is undoubtedly sinning by doing that, and sharia allows her to answer him back in a manner that befits his wrongdoing.
Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
Quran 42:41 “And indeed whosoever takes revenge after he has suffered wrong, for such there is no way of blame against them”
The aya before that is better
42:40 The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto…’
She is allowed to humiliate him in front of people and if he beats her she can hit him back. But I’d still get a big dog.
But the partner goes against what Allah commands and tells her;
If she is patient in bearing harsh words and mistreatment, seeking reward with Allah, she will earn a more complete and better reward.
Naw, go with what the Quran suggests, sister.
So what he must do is to make up with her and try to please her, not the other way round. If a person does wrong, in order for his repentance to be complete he must try to please the one who has been wronged, with apologies and kind words.
After a few rounds of the sister humiliating him, he might try that.
The sister says:
“And of course I have no right to differ with his opinion or to argue with him, and if I lose my temper I am not forgiven.”
This is not correct. It is permissible for a women to argue with her husband and to have a different opinion, but she does not have the right to refuse to do what he tells her to do – even if she objects to it – so long as he does not tell her to commit sin, because there is no obedience to anyone if it involves disobedience towards the Creator.
Quran 4:34 “Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means”
The ‘excel means…money and muscle only. No brain required on his part, which is why the sister in the situation she is in.
It is narrated as ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab said to the Prophet:
“We Quraysh used to control our women, but when we came to the Ansaar we found that they were a people who were controlled by their women. So our women started to adopt the ways of the Ansaari women. I got angry with my wife and she argued with me and I did not like her arguing with me. She said, ‘Why do you object to me arguing with you? By Allah, the wives of the Prophet argue with him…’”
It’s true, they did! I guess they were some of the women who weren’t buried when born.
Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said – “This indicates that being harsh with women is something blameworthy, because the Prophet adopted the way of the Ansaar with their women and forsook the way of his people.”
This is true!! I’ll bet that surprises many of you! His wife Khadija taught him well :D
and the Quran says...
Quran 2:286 “Our Lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear”
And Allah granted that wish. 5:87 O ye who believe! make not unlawful the good things which Allah hath made lawful for you, but commit no excess: for Allah loveth not those given to excess.
And Muhammad said;
"Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists.”
Can someone please put that on a sign on the next Sharia protest??
And the Quran also says; 4:171 ‘O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion’
The Book People listened.
But the partners of Allah continue
The sister says in her question: “as you have stated in a fatwa that the reward for praying in congregation is only for men and not for women”.
This also is not correct. Rather what we said – based on the hadiht of the Prophet – is that the twenty-seven-fold reward is for men only, because they are the ones for whom prayer in congregation is enjoined, not women. Prayer is congregation is mustahabb for women, but we cannot be certain that women will get the twenty-seven-fold reward. It is permissible for women to attend the prayers in the mosque, and it is not permissible for men to forbid them to go. If they go and pray with (the men), they will have a share of the reward for praying in congregation.
Nevertheless, based on the saheeh (Arabic for authentic) hadith, (Arabic of stories of muhammd) the shirk continues with...
‘Abd al-‘Azeem Abaadi said:
“Their houses are better for them” means that their praying in their houses is better for them than praying in the mosques, if only they knew that, but they do not know that, so they ask to go out to the mosques and think that the reward for going to the mosque is greater. The reason why their praying in their houses is better is because they are safer from fitnah (temptation). This ruling is even more necessary because of the tabarruj (wanton display) and adornment that have become prevalent among women.
The Quran says; 9:17 The disbelievers have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness against their own souls to infidelity. These it is whose doings are in vain, and in the fire shall they abide. Only he shall visit the mosques of Allah who believes in Allah and the latter day, and keeps up devotional obligations, pays the zakat, and fears none but Allah.”
This would mean that Muslim men think Muslim women are disbelievers.
9:107 And there are those who put up a mosque by way of mischief and infidelity - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against Allah and His Messenger aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; But Allah doth declare that they are certainly liars.
I find this to be a warning from Allah to the Jews and Christians…and pagans, etc..
The sister says in her question: “Is this the fate of the Muslim woman if she does well and does what is required of her? If she avoids sin, she does not attain any virtue and if she falls short she is one of those who are cursed and expelled from the mercy of Allaah, and do I and the accursed Iblees become the same?”!
This is thinking badly of Allaah, and what you say is not correct at all.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
Quran 33:35 Lo! men who surrender unto Allah, and women who surrender, and men who believe and women who believe, and men who obey and women who obey, and men who speak the truth and women who speak the truth, and men who persevere (in righteousness) and women who persevere, and men who are humble and women who are humble, and men who give alms and women who give alms, and men who fast and women who fast, and men who guard their modesty and women who guard their modesty, and men who remember Allah much and women who remember Allah hath prepared for them forgiveness and a vast reward
Change the word Arabic word Allah to the English word God and this is a universal message that should be repeated often to remind Muslims of Allah’s tolerance.
At the end of this response, we should not forget to praise our sister for her frankness. But when asking such questions, that should be done with more in a more appropriate manner, and the questioner should avoid everything that may be taken as objecting to the rulings, because the human mind is incapable of comprehending the greatness of Allaah’s wisdom and the vastness of His bounty towards His creation.
I don’t know about that. Allah’s partners have their own opinions and some of them suck.
And this is what Allah says about partners (Arabic word is shirk)
6:22 One day shall We gather them all together: We shall say to those who ascribed partners to Us: "Where are the partners whom ye invented and talked about?"
And Allah knows best.
A Muslim asks a scholar
I have been divorced for three years now. the proceedings were done through a solicitor. my ex husband did not contest therefore it was done through agreement between us. what i would like to know he has never verbally said 'talaq' to me. i have asked a few people, they tell me that under the islamic law i am divorced, and some people tell me that he has to say it verbally. please clarify this for me, as it is affecting me. i initiated the divorce on grounds of violent behaviour.
And the scholar replies
Praise be to Allaah.
It is not a condition of divorce that the husband should speak the word in front of his wife or that she should know of it. When the man speaks the words of divorce, or writes them down, this is regarded as a valid divorce that takes effect, even if the wife does not know of it.
And that’s because Allah’s partners decide what rights a wife has. This is not based on the Quran, it is Sharia. I find this beyond offensive. Shirk at its worst!
The Qurans says you cannot marry in secret, so why can a Sharia man divorce in secret? It’s bad, all bad.
A Muslim asks a scholar
Is it allowed to women to watch football games on Television?
And the scholar replies
Praise be to Allaah.
Football games that are shown on television include a number of things that are contrary to Sharia. In most cases -- if not all -- it may come under the category of gambling and betting which are haraam.
The Quran does not forbid gambling, it just says not to lose all your money. And the partners continue….
They involve uncovering of ‘awrahs, mixing of men and women and listening to musical instruments.
Yeah, those horns at the world cup were sooo sexy….not.
The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas were asked: What is the ruling on watching sports tournaments such as the World Cup and so on?
They replied: Football matches that are played for money and similar prizes are haraam, because that is gambling.
They object to the players receiving money for playing soccer and to the prize given to the winner. Allah is cool with it, why aren’t the sharia’s?
It is not permissible to accept a prize -except in things that sharia has deemed permissible, namely racing horses and camels, and competing in archery.
You can gamble on camel races?....and the horse tracks? Who knew?
Based on that, going to matches is haraam and so is watching them on TV, for the one who knows that they are being played for a prize, because going to them implies approval of them.
Where do they come up with this crap? It’s not even based on Hadith.
It is not permissible to watch matches, as the players are usually not dressed properly and some of the thighs show, or the awrah may be outlined by the clothes, and that is a fitnah for women.
Yes, it is indeed hard for a woman to resist a thigh.
Plus, the viewer begins to venerate a kafir player for example, then it is undoubtedly haraam, because it is not permissible for us to venerate them at all, no matter how far they have advanced. It is also haraam if the thighs of young men appear.
Interesting that they use the word ‘kafir’. That word predates Islam. The original use was for farmers. Now it’s used for unbelievers. Do they believe farmers are unbelievers? Challenge the use of that word.
A Muslim asks a scholarI have a question about this verse: 2:79 Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. What is it that they used to gain by changing the books after they were revealed? Did they literally "sell" these changed books to people and make a profit off of them?
And the scholar replies
Praise be to Allaah.
In this verse, Allah warns those who distort the Book and change laws, those who betrayed the trust of knowledge and religion, with loss, punishment and doom on the Day of Resurrection. They distorted the Book by adding and subtracting, and they said that this was from Allah, lying and fabricating. Their aim in distorting the Book was to make transient worldly gains. This is represented in a number of things:
Yep. Like Hadith, Sharia, fatwa’s and stupid scholarly advice. Like this silly Hadith
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Al-Baghawi said:
That is because the rabbis of the Jews were afraid of losing their livelihood and position of leadership, when the Prophet came to Madena. So they tried to prevent the Jews from believing in him. They went to his description in the Torah, where he is described as having a handsome face, with handsome hair, kohl-rimmed eyes and being of average height, and they changed it, writing instead: Tall, blue, with straight hair.
When their foolish ones asked them about the description of the Prophet, they read what they had written and said that he was different from this description, so they disbelieved him and rejected him. So Allah said (interpretation of the meaning): “Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands”
Al-Saddi said:
Some of the Jews wrote a book themselves to sell to the Arabs, and they told them that it was from Allah, so that they could take a little price for it.
Jaami‘ al-Bayaan, 2/270-271
Al-‘Allaamah al-Taahir ibn ‘Ashoor mentioned two other aspects of the worldly greed that led some of the People of the Book to distort their Books. He said:
The price meant here is pleasing the common folk, by changing the rulings of the religion for them so that they will be in accordance with their whims and desires, or to claim that they have knowledge even though they are ignorant.
So they fabricated worthless books full of stories and simple information so as to pretend that they had knowledge in front of people because they were unable to grasp true knowledge, and they wanted prominence and false leadership. So they fabricated stories and ideas in which there is no true knowledge at all, then they propagated it and attributed it to Allah and His Religion.
This is the attitude of the ignorant who seek leadership without being qualified for it, so that they may appear as scholars in the eyes of the common folk and those who cannot distinguish between true and false.
Well that made me laugh out loud! Allah doth not like-ith the hypocrites. Says that in the Quran--- as well as----not follow silly Hadiths.
Memorize this;
31: 6: But, there are among men those who patronize ridiculous Hadith without knowledge thereby misleading men from the Path of Allah and throwing a butt of mockery on the Path: for such there will be a humiliating Penalty."
The word Hadith is even in the transliteration and in Arabic;
Thirty one-six----31-6
Wamina alnnasi man yashtaree lahwa alhadeethi liyudilla AAan sabeeli Allahi bighayri AAilmin wayattakhithaha huzuwan olaika lahum AAathabun muheenun
A Muslim asks a scholar
I would like to know if it is allowed for a woman to be alone with a man in one room, for example in the embassy . If she needs the money and it is nessesary to talk to the officer about a job possibility and she has no one to go with her . If she wears islamic dress and also niqab , is there something wrong with it ?
And the scholar replies
Praise be to Allaah.
It is not permissible for a man to be alone with a woman who is not his mahram, because the Prophet said: “No man should be alone with a woman unless there is a mahram with them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari
The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas
Asna’l-Mataalib (3/407): It is permissible for a man to be alone with two women, but not the opposite; i.e., it is not permissible for two non-mahram men to be alone with a woman even if it is unlikely that they would agree to commit immoral actions.
Based on that, if you need to meet this official and you do not have a mahram with you, then you should take a righteous woman to be with you during the meeting.
And Allah knows best.
Allah didn’t say any of that crap. Why do these guys insist on telling their women that their men can’t be trusted? After many generations of being told this, the Sharia men start to believe it. Mind control at it worst. Why the hell would you brag about the weakness of your men?
Ok Robert, was that long enough for you?
In the 13th century there lived a Merry Mullah named Nasreddin who was known for his antidotal humor. We could use more Muslims like him today.
"When I was in the desert on day, I caused an entire tribe of horrible and bloodthirsty Bedouins to run."
"However did you do it?" asked a person.
“I ran, and they ran after me."
That’s funny and it probably really happened.