If the man is not the main source of income is he still considered the head of the household?
And the scholar replied
Qiwaamah (the role of being in charge or head of the household) is one of the things that Allah has given to men, exclusive of women.
What is meant by qiwaamah is that men are entrusted with the task of being responsible for women, to take care of them, to guide them in the best possible way, and to issue commands and prohibitions - just as a ruler takes care of the people under his control.
Like the rulers of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan..
Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): "
4:34 Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath men the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High
No brains required. There’s a couple of other words on his greatness but I thought I’d end on high. I’ll also make the observation that Allah/God and the original, G-d, pretty much saw females the same way. And then America came along to challenge some of the God laws. And God didn’t get mad.
But this particular aya, I believe, had to be delivered to what Allah has said to be the worst of the worst (9;97) These fools needed laws and boundaries. Yes, it sounds harsh for a god to tell a husband that he owns his wife and can beat her if she scares him, but it was a better law than saying he could kill her.
In the Quran, there is not one condition whereby a husband can kill his wife. Pagans, idolaters and even some of the tribal desert Jews--the one's who believed Ezra was a son of Allah, and the desert Christians who believed Mary was a god, (of that time and area), could and would kill their wives, and the first two could even kill their female babies.
He follows with this
2:228 Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them. Allah is Mighty, Wise
Kindness does not pay the bills. But this does give some insight as to what life was like for the desert Arabs. It wasn't good.
I have to wonder if these scholars ever think of Khadija, Muhammad’s first wife, who supported him, protected him (remember that scary angel?) She guided him and gave him a job.
Ibn Katheer (who was a total and complete ass) said: "This means that men are in charge of women; they govern them and discipline them if they do wrong."
Al-‘Allaamah Shaykh al-Shanqeeti said: My name is to damn long..ha. This is what he said
"This indicates that men are better than women, because the masculine is honour and perfection, whereas the feminine naturally has something lacking physically (basically, a penis). All people are agreed on this, because all peoples give women the best of adornments, which is only to make up for this natural lack..."
Pfft….give her a gun. That will make up for this natural lack…’
However, I have observed that men who lack confidence really need to believe this crap.
Rare cases among women are nothing to go by, because the exception does not change the rule.
It’s important for Al to believe that all men are smarter and stronger than all women. An 80 year old man marries a 12 year old girl. Within 3 years she’ll easily be able to kick his ass. Hellfire, she could probably do it now.
Some of the reasons why men are given the role of qiwaamah include:
1. Men are more intelligent and have a better ability to distinguish right from wrong.
I wonder if Al could explain why there are more males in any given prison in any given country.
Al-Qurtubi said: "Men have the advantage of being more wise and more capable of management; for this reason they were given the right of qiwaamah."
Hey—yo Al. Have ya looked at the economic situations in Sharia/Islamic countries? I say, give the females a shot. Seriously, how much worse could it get? I’m betting you’d see huge improvements…and happier men—wearing pants, too!
2. Men’s religion is more complete, because women menstruate and bleed after childbirth, and do not pray or fast at such times - unlike men.
Well that’s a stupid reason. They want kids, and they want them to live, don’t they? What if all the women got a shot that eliminated periods? That would freak the guys out.
3. Spending money in charity and on one’s family is a duty on men, but not on women.
Yeah? Khadija hired Muhammad and supported him. That’s charity. She died broke.
Thus if a man refuses to spend on his wife, she has the right to seek an annulment of the marriage by going to a Qaadi (Sharee’ah judge).
If he’s ‘refusing to spend on her’ they should allow her to sell all his stuff.
In summary, qiwaamah is only for men, as is made clear in the Qur’aan. If a woman spends on her husband, herself and her children, this is an act of kindness on her part
More like an act of survival.
As Allaah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): 4:4"... but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it the mahr (the price for the use of her vagina) to you, take it, and enjoy it without fear of any harm
Bad interpretation. I don’t think it’s a pleasure to support a guy who could beat you if you scared him. I don’t believe this aya is being used how it was intended, not at all.
Qiwaamah is for men in all cases: one can hardly imagine a man asking his wife for permission to go out, for example. And Allaah knows best.
That’s too funny! I find it hard to imagine in this day and age, especially if the wife lives a safe place like Saudi Arabia, to ask for permission to go out. And if she’s supporting the manly man, then she has to go out. Honey, can I go to work now so we can eat this week?
For more information on this matter, (translation; if you want to know how dumb they are) please refer to: Ibn al-‘Arabi, Ahkaam al-Qur’aan, 1/531; Ahkaam al-Jassaas, 2/188; Tafseer al-Qurtubi, 2/169; Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 1/491; al-Shanqeeti, Adwaa’ al-Bayaan, 1/136-137)
Tasfir is Arabic for opinion. They threw in theirs, go ahead and throw in yours.
Narrated Abu Bakra:
Allah's Apostle said thrice, "Shall I not inform you of the biggest of the great sins?" We said, "Yes, O Allah's Apostle" He said, "To join partners in worship with Allah: to be undutiful to one's parents." The Prophet sat up after he had been reclining and added, "And I warn you against giving forged statement and a false witness; I warn you against giving a forged statement and a false witness." The Prophet kept on saying that warning till we thought that he would not stop
there’s a big clue in that last sentence.
I would say these laws are still needed only if the men still believe they are the worst of the worst. If not, time to move ahead with the times. You’re not roaming the deserts anymore with pagans and idolaters (they were run out or killed) You have to trust or jail your brothers in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi, etc, and you have to trust your women.
They shouldn’t still have to fear you as they feared the pagans and idolaters; they should feel safe and protected to go out to the store or to work, if they want..and be able to buy their bras from a female.. And if you married for love, trust and friendship, put some trust into it…as Allah says, religion should not be a burden. Nor should it suck. And if you still don’t get it, read my last blog and watch the video.
One more thing before I go feed Bukhari and Katheer and the other unbelievers, women in Sharia run countries are not envied, they are pitied. Seeing as you’re in charge--fix that.
Oh right. Scientific proof why men are smarter than women...and why women talk more than men...they just can't remember what they said.
Az Zaqqum...an ordeal